Friday, September 16, 2011

K-Mart Sucks: Follow-up Questions to "Rain Man"

Choose two of the questions below, and spend about 150 words saying smart and interesting things for each of them. This must be accomplished by 9:00 p.m. Sunday, September 18, in order to apply extra credit to your first six weeks' average.

What do you feel is Charlie Babbitt's biggest flaw?

What do you think of Charlie's decision to return Raymond to Wallbrook?

Discuss why television is so important to Raymond.

Discuss the role of women in the lives of Raymond and Charlie.

In what ways does Charlie fill the "little brother" role? How does he fill the "big brother" role to Raymond?

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18 comments:

Jonathan Ramos said...

I sent the answers to your email.

Luis Ramos said...
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Luis Ramos said...

1.What do you feel is Charlie Babbitt's biggest flaw?

Biggest flaw? Charlie Babbitt doesn’t have one. He has many. In the beginning and throughout the movie, Charlie was portrayed as self-centered and an abuser. Self-centered, due to how he only cared about himself and his ambition. An abuser, since he was using his brother Raymond, and his intellect, in order for him to claim the inheritance his father left, to solve all his business problems. It’s not right to do what he did. Especially to his older brother Raymond, who was autistic. Charlie was a big jerk. Treating Raymond like if he was a child, or simply a piece of trash. He wasn’t mature enough to note how much care and love Raymond actually needed. Instead, he was too busy dealing with his own problems, always thinking about himself. Raymond was a nonentity for him, or it seemed like it, since he wasn’t as concerned over Raymond than over Wyatt or the car deal. Other things, rather than his own brother, appeared to be of more significance for him. This certainly shows the audience what type of character Charlie Babbitt is, as portrayed in the beginning.

2.What do you think of Charlie's decision to return Raymond to Wallbrook?

I think Charlie’s decision to return Raymond back to Wallbrook was very generous, due to how for once, he isn’t thinking only about himself, but about his brother Raymond. He’s allowing his brother Raymond, to choose where he wants to go, either stay with him or go back to the mental hospital he was kidnapped from by him. This isn’t the same Charlie he was back in the beginning of the movie. He was a totally different character, one who now got along with his brother and had drastically changed for. He couldn’t have made a better decision. Wallbrook is where Raymond belongs at. That’s his home, the one place he feels extremely comfortable in. Knowing that Charlie allowed Raymond to go back, show’s the audience that he’s accepting his brother for whom he is. He’s giving him opportunities. He’s giving him support. He’s giving him everything he never gave him, before, before the big transformation. He did it for the
best.

Carrington said...

What do you feel is Charlie Babbitt's biggest flaw?
In the 1988 movie “Rain Man”, Charlie Babbitt’s biggest FLAW is not accepting his brother which is “autistic” but instead he was trying to get close his brother just receive his deceased father’s fortune. You tell this at the beginning when he called his brother: F***ing Retard!” This word choose shows that he is not accepting or understanding of his brother’s condition. This flaw is one that starts going away as time goes on because it feels as if is he gets closer to his brother Raymond. When time goes on it feels as they start doing activities together and bond especially when they were in Las Vegas. After this happens, the trust is most shown when Charlie let Raymond drive the car that is the critical point in the story when everything changed. Other time Charlie loses his flaw and he becomes like a guardian to his older brother.

In what ways does Charlie fill the "little brother" role? How does he fill the "big brother" role to Raymond?
In the 1988 movie “Rain Man”, Charlie fills the role as a little brother by asking question about his family past and Raymond fills the role as a big brother by explaining in little blurbs about his life and the past. From the beginning of the movie you could tell that Charlie’s had a lack of knowledge regarding his families past and especially about his mother but his brother knew about the family but because of his autistic condition he could not express the feelings or thoughts. Raymond little outburst about his past and explaining how he cared for his little brother especially after the mother’s death, with that song he sung to Charlie. Raymond in some ways completes Charlie life and gives him insight into their family history and gives a piece of closer. This relates to the first I answered because I think that if Raymond did not understand and helped Charlie understand their families past then Charlie would have not accepted Raymond.

Freddy Zavala said...

1)-In what ways does Charlie fill the “little brother” role? How does he fill the “big brother” role to Raymond?

I feel as if Charlie played the perfect role as the little brother, not just because of his age but because of everything that Raymond taught him. Although Raymond had autism, he was able to change his little brother Charlie. Charlie never appreciated anyone and he was sort of a jerk to the world. He was selfish and was all about the money and Charlie helped him to care about others and for once grow a heart. Charlie was also the “older brother” because he was responsible for Raymond and he did what he could to make Raymond feel comfortable in any situation present. For example he tried to give Raymond everything that he had back at Wallbrook. Charlie was in charge of Raymond and as a result Charlie learned what family is.

2)-What do you think of Charlie’s decision to return Raymond to Wallbrook?

I think that Charlie changed dramatically from the beginning of the movie to the end of the movie. At first he was selfish and all about the money and towards the end he became more caring and open-minded. His major goal at the end of the movie was to do the best thing for Raymond. He wanted to be with Raymond but knew that the best decision for Raymond was for him to return to Wallbrook. Charlie’s decision was very generous and caring. He experienced a dramatic change in his life from before knowing about Raymond till he had to make the decision of returning him to Wallbrook. Charlie was accepting Raymond for who he is and he accepted him as his brother. He knew that Wallbrook is the place where Raymond belongs and wants to spend his life at.

Jessica Rodriguez said...

1) What do you feel is Charlie Babbit’s biggest flaw?

Charlie Babbit has many flaws portrayed throughout the movie, although his major flaw would have to be his immaturity. Throughout the movie Charlie acts like a seven-year-old. He is always complaining and constantly throwing tantrums here and there. He even picks on his older brother after he takes him away from the mental hospital. He is jealous of his brother since Raymond was the one who had inheritted his father’s three million dollars. Just as a little kid would be mad at a sibling who received something that her or she had originally wanted, Charlie behaved in that same manner. Charlie would patronize Raymond with harsh comments both about his mental status and just in general. Charlie even physically hurt his brother at the diner when he lost his temper and tightly grabbed Raymond’s neck. He’s behaving no better than a seven-year-old would behave. Charlie’s immaturity causes both pain to himself and Raymond.

2) In what ways does Charlie fill the "little brother" role? How does he fill the "big brother" role to Raymond?

Charlie fills the “little brother” because he learns from Raymond. Raymond may be autistic but he unknowingly teaches Charlie how to accept others. Before Charlie was close-minded and wasn’t accepting of other. He was self centered and only cared for himself. But after a few days with Raymond, Charlie learns how to cares for others and their needs. He begins to accept Raymond along with his autism. With his heart and mind finally open to acceptance he treats his brother with respect. This is when Charlie begins to fill the “big brother” role. He begins to care for Raymond’s needs by going along the roads Raymond feels most comfortable on, trying his best to make sure that Raymond watches his shows, and by doing his best to clam Raymond down whenever his is scared and begins to hit himself. Charlies biggest act as a “big brother” figure was when he told the doctors to leave Raymond alone when they repeatedly questioned him. If it wasn’t for Raymond, Charile may never have learned how to care for others.

Misael said...

Misael De Leon

In what ways does Charlie fill the "little brother" role? How does he fill the "big brother" role to Raymond?

Throughout the film, Charlie is the little brother, and although Charlie may not mean to do it, he fills in the “little brother” role through outburst of anger that shows frustration. Raymond’s “big brother” role can be seen through his teachings of patience to his younger brother.
At the beginning when Charlie is first getting to know Raymond, he would get frustrated so easily by Raymond. Charlie’s frustration would not only show how impatient Charlie was with Raymond, but subliminally show how a little brother would react; like a child getting frustrated when he is not given a candy at the store and throws a tantrum. Charlie’s frustration outbursts were his tantrums.
On the other hand, Raymond stepped into the big brother shoes in a different manner. Yes Raymond did suffer from a mental disability, but was yet able to teach Charlie patience. Raymond lived a very punctual life, due to his mental disability; but by living his life in this way, he was able to show Charlie a different lifestyle. Throughout the film, we saw constantly how Charlie’s life and Raymond’s life would clash one another; and since Raymond was unable to change his, Charlie had to adapt to Raymond’s life. By adapting to Raymond’s life Charlie, in the end, had understood Raymond more and was able to learn an overall patience with other people.

What do you think of Charlie's decision to return Raymond to Wallbrook?

Although it was sad to see Raymond having to leave Charlie’s life, I thought it was a very mature and adult thing of him to do. What I enjoyed most about Charlie was his character change. I enjoyed the fact that at the beginning of the film, Charlie was a complete jerk to people and to Raymond. But the more time Charlie spent with his older brother, the more he began to understand him, and the more he began to understand others. Charlie’s whole purpose to get his brother to Los Angeles was to get the money his father had left for his older brother. As they journeyed, that reason to Los Angeles also changed. In the end, I guess that is what made the decision of Charlie to let Raymond back into Wallbrook. All though it was upsetting to see two brothers be separated again, the fact that Charlie allowed it to happen was a mature thing to do.

Zack Reyna said...

1.What do you feel is Charlie Babbitt's biggest flaw is?

I feel that Charlie’s biggest flaw is his overall selfish nature. Thanks to his father’s overall mistreatment of him as a child, Charlie grows up emotionally stunted. Lacking the proper attention he felt he deserved as a child, he ends up taking it out on the people around him and attempting to garner all attention. This also gives him a sort of egocentric nature, especially towards Raymond. He feels that because he knows something and can comprehend simple things, he feels that Raymond should be able to as well. Also, he shows a complete disregard for the needs of others. Not just Raymond but his girlfriend as well. He is always forcing her to do exactly what he wants and won’t have it any other way. All in all, even through all of his shortcomings, Charlie’s biggest one of all would have to be his intolerable selfishness. Even though he was neglected as a child, there should be no reason for his complete disregard of others.

2. In what way does Charlie fill the "little brother" role? How does he fill the "big brother" role to Raymond?

Charlie fills both roles as big and little brother extremely well. To start with, he fits the little brother with his extreme selfishness and disregard of those around him and rules. Throughout the movie, Charlie is seen taking risks and doing whatever he wants, a prime example of which being what he did with his father’s car. He completely disregards all rules, but whines and gets annoyed when he gets caught. Also, throughout the beginning of the film, Charlie would refuse to take any responsibility for Raymond, making him do everything himself, continually showing his little brother role. But as the film progresses, you see Charlie begin to take care of Raymond and watch after him. He teaches him things and helps him with whatever he may need. This shows Charlie’s older brother nature, essentially describing the older brother’s nature of watching after the younger, more helpless sibling. The movie essentially takes Charlie through a sort of role reversal, one in which he grows up and sheds his little brother status.

Ana Ruiz(: said...

-What do you feel is Charlie Babbitt's biggest flaw?

Charlie Babbitt has many flaws, like we all do. His flaws included a choleric personality, greed, heartless nature and above all his greatest flaw: ambition. His wish to obtain more money caused him to lose valuable people in his life. Because of his ambition, he distanced himself from his father. For that reason when his father passed away Charlie was not left with his fortune, Raymond was. This led Charlie to “kidnap” his brother. Although he deserved to know that he had a brother, he only found out about him because of his greed. His ambition caused him to lose someone else again. Throughout the course of the week that they spend together, Charlie’s ambition blossomed into a strong brotherly bond. If Charlie would have approached the situation differently, he would not have lost his brother as well. Initially, he let his ambition overcome him and when he realized what was truly important, it was too late.


-In what ways does Charlie fill the "little brother" role? How does he fill the "big brother" role to Raymond?

Letting go can be hard for many. Charlie obtained a brotherly love for Raymond and when he realized the true value of love for others, it was hard for him to let go. Although it was a difficult decision for Charlie, he did what was best for Raymond. This decision allowed him to value Charlie more. It also showed his consideration for Raymond’s well-being. Charlie’s decision was evidence of the transformation he underwent through the week he spent with his brother. Personally, I was hoping that Raymond would have stayed with Charlie because they both transformed each other in such a short amount of time. I realize that it was better for Raymond to return to Wallbrook, but I think it would have been nice for Charlie to spend more time with his brother. Charlie’s decision proved that his ambition was destroyed and replaced with love for his brother.

Vanessa De Leon said...

1) Discuss why television is so important to Raymond.

Because Raymond does not like things to be changed –be it his food or even his clothes from K-mart-, he likes to follow a certain schedule that makes him happy; furthermore, the television brings him comfort because the schedule of his favorite television programs follow a certain schedule. So unlike people, such as Charlie, who try to change his schedule and make him uncomfortable, the television stays faithful to him. Some of his favorite television programs could be ‘Wheel of Fortune’ and ‘Jeopardy’ because he feels comfortable knowing the answers. In addition, in a scene when Charlie, Susanne, and Raymond and in a hotel, Raymond starts saying the script of one of the television programs. Which shows that other than following the same schedule, these programs also follow a certain order (like the scripts.)
Also, the television cannot judge him; Raymond can stay as himself in his own world while watching television. And if he cannot get this time, he suddenly has his ‘moments’ where desperation takes control over him.

2)What do you think of Charlie’s decision to return Raymond to Wallbrook?

In Rain Man, Charlie Babbitt’s decision to finally letting go of Raymond, and letting him go back to Walbrook, shows that Charlie has come to accept his limitations. Before, Charlie had this mindset that he could accomplish whatever he wished to, and things would follow the way he wanted. But once he had spent six days with Raymond, he started to lose this immature way of thinking (like how he thought before that autism was actually curable, and that Raymond was only acting stupid.) Little by little, he grew to understand his brother’s disabilities, and how much he actually loved him. It was because of these revelations that he knew that there were things that he simply couldn’t do. Once he saw that Raymond could not have a normal relationship with him, Charlie knew it was time to let him go to a better place. Sure, it was hard, but it was the right thing to do.

Patricia V. said...

I think Charlie's biggest flaw is that he is close minded. Within his close mindedness is that he is celf-centered. He does not see beyond his own selfish purposes to fully interact with others. He yelled at his employees because they got in his way. Susana left him because she did not like the way he treated Raymond. Biggest of all, Charlie did not understand Raymond. He kidnapped him for the money, practically dragged him out. It was almost like he refused to understand Raymond, thinking that he was acting like a child. He didn't understand Raymond's necessities related to his autism and only got angry at him. Charlie lived within himself. Then again, Charlie cannot be fully blamed. He did grow up in a cold, empty home where he didn't have the love of his father.

I think Charlie made a good decision in returning Raymond to Wallbrook. Charlie could not tend to Raymond the way they would have at Wallbrook. He always got frustrated with Raymond. Though he did change the way he treated Raymond, he is always going to be the same person. He is busy with his business. At Wallbrook, Raymond won't through the stresses he did like when the fire alarm went off, for example. He will be taken care of. Charlie can still visit Raymond and nurture their relationship.

Anonymous said...

Charlie's biggest flaw is his inability to see the bigger picture. Technically, in my opinion, he isn't necessarily close minded because when it comes to taking something beneficial to him, he will do anything but when it comes to benefiting others he could care less. He does not realize the potential in Raymond until he sees himself in a tough spot, with no money, and great necessity. It is then that he wants to take advantage of Raymond's talent. Although Charlie Babbit is self-centered, he soon learns to love his brother Raymond and care for his well being.

I think Charlie made the right decision in returning Raymond to Wallbrook. Although Charlie had become a better person through his sex-day journey with Raymond, I feel as though he still wasn't prepared to deal with Raymond's autism. Charlie still needed a lot of personal growing up to do in order o fully commit to his relationship with Raymond. He needed to learn to not only be caring for others but that there is much more to life than money.

Dayvid Ruiz said...

Charlie Babbitt's greatest flaw, to me, seemed quite obvious. His egotistic selfishness easily took this title. He didn't consider anybody but himself and his needs, using anyone he came across to try and get an edge on life. Charlie Babbitt felt the world owed him something when in reality it owed him nothing. He thought he was such a good person, who had endured so much, that life should be easier for him.

Dayvid Ruiz said...

1. What do you feel is Charlie Babbitt's biggest flaw?

Charlie Babbitt's greatest flaw, to me, seemed quite obvious. His egotistic selfishness easily took this title. He didn't consider anybody but himself and his needs, using anyone he came across to try and get an edge on life. Charlie Babbitt felt the world owed him something when in reality it owed him nothing. He thought he was such a good person, who had endured so much, that life should be easier for him. His lack of understanding for others was all cause by him being consumed by his thoughts of his importance.


2. What do you think of Charlie's decision to return Raymond to Wallbrook?

Charlies decision to return Raymond to Wallbrook shows growth. It does not show that he is a completely better person but it does show some improvement. At the start of the film it's clear that he would not have returned him until he got the money he felt he deserved. By choosing to willingly take him back, he shows that in his wild trip with his older brother he actually did learn something. Although he is still not what some would consider a good person, the fact that he improved on his biggest flaw would show hope for the future. He chose to return him and that implies that, for once, he is not only thinking of himself, but for another as well. Improving his biggest flaw makes it easier to better himself in other ways as well.

Kaylee Trevino said...
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Kaylee Trevino said...

What do you feel is Charlie Babbitt's biggest flaw?

Charlie Babbit’s biggest flaw is his self-centered personality. At the beginning of the movie, he was portrayed as a careless human being who was only concerned about himself and his own progress. After he finds out that Raymond is his brother, Charlie used the relationship with his brother to his advantage. All he desires at this point is the money that he will gain from his brother, for it will allow him to save his business. Although his brother needs love and attention from him, Charlies does not provide him with this and instead shows that he does not care about him.


What do you think of Charlie's decision to return Raymond to Wallbrook?

Towards the end of the movie, we see that Charlie has evolved from the self-centered and careless human being to a more benevolent and caring person. He has come to develop a deep connection with his brother who he now cares about. Because he knows that his brother will be happier in Wallbrook he makes the decision to allow him to return. Although he wished Raymond could stay with him, he allows me to return because he feels that it will be best for his brother

Lyanne Buenrostro said...

I know its past 9 PM but I still want to answer them.


1. Charlie's biggest flaw is that he doesn't value Raymond as a person. He treats him as an object and sees him as the source of money and "happiness". He's self-centered and selfish. It's obvious with his treatment of his girlfriend and the way he lacks to understand Raymond's illness. He says...yells ignorant comments at Raymond, not fully comprehending that it is not Raymond's choice to behave the way he does. Charlie's flaw derives from his lack of a family feel at home. He spoke of how his father never let him drive the car and of how their mother died. He didn't grow up in a balanced household so his inability to grow a stable relationship with Raymond off the bat in understandable.



2. Charlie's decision to return Raymond was the responsible thing to do. He hasn't been there for Raymond his whole life and he's not educated enough o handle a person with Autism. It would be nice for Charlie to have a family member with him all the time, but it is saver for him to be in an environment that is aware of his needs. Charlie grew as a person by the end of the movie. The Charlie at the beginning of the movie never would have returned Raymond until he got the full amount of money he wanted. The emotion of guilt mixed in with happiness are apparent in the end of the movie, when Charlie watches the train leave. He knows he's doing the right thing for Raymond, finally put someone else's needs before his.

Unknown said...

In the essay Ralph Waldo Emerson from Journals, the authors tone and ideas is what astonish me the most. Like one idea was that “The Religion that is afraid of science dishonors God and commits suicide”. Now the first thing that pops in my head was that this is very true. Im not the religious type but I understand back in the 1800s everyone believe that God was the reason for the world and universe. But as science grew, so did the amount of people that stop believing in anything their religion tells them because science has facts. Another thing I notice was the author use of repetition. He repeats the word “must” in one of the sentence stanza. “ A man must have aunts and cousins, must buy carrots and turnips, must have…….” You get the point. It was almost as the author was writing a hand manual of how a man should have as part of his life. Now Im a young adult growing in to a man, but I can tell you that not all man are perfect, to be honest there is so such thing as a perfect man. But the tone set by the author in that paragraph is like anger. He was angry probably because this wasn’t a manual, but probably writing all the negative comments he was told throughout his life as man/father? “ slavery is a divine institution” now that just stuck out to me the most I have to say. To see slavery nothing but a company of workers is wrong. Slavery was never a great idea so why make it look like a worldwide institution. This whole essay was just astonishing to me because is as if the author choose to make a list of things he never wish he had done or wish to have done better.